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I'll get a description of just exactly what happened to you up in the mountains.

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Uh-huh.

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Yeah, you're just a research organization.

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Right, this is a private research organization with a group of scientists and laymen studying

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the UFO mystery.

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Uh-huh.

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Okay.

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Well, I just noticed some, when I was, see, I just wandered into this space.

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I wandered into this campsite, um, in the evening, and I just kind of noticed some kind of log

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shelters.

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I mean, they weren't big log shelters.

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I mean, they were just, they were just about two or three logs laid on one another, and

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they were just kind of made, like somebody was starting to build some sort of a cabin

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or something, but just got a few logs put on.

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There were just two of these structures.

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So what I did was I built myself a little bed in there, and it was just a, a little,

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uh, settling down to sleep.

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And, uh, then I kind of, this full moon came up, and, um, and I noticed some clouds, um,

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I just, you know, woke up and was out, and, uh, and there were people, uh, I mean, I,

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I knew there were people looking for me that night, and, um, I mean, or, or looking for

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me that day, and I saw these, um, saw these clouds going along the sky.

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Um, they were pretty, they weren't too far above my head.

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I mean, they weren't too, I mean, they weren't too high in the sky.

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Um, but I just, just kind of noticed, um, kind of a strange cloud formation go by.

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There may have been one or two of them, and then I, I kind of yelled at them, you know,

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for some reason.

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Yes.

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I just, um, and I noticed some, uh, uh, further up in the sky, kind of like a star.

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I kind of saw these, these, um, they look like a couple of, um, well, they look a little

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bit bigger than stars, but they look like they were just a couple of them just overhead

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there.

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And then, and I just been thinking more about them, you know, I was just standing there,

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and then I noticed kind of over on the, over to my right, um, ways there was just seemed

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to be some sort of a strange light or something, maybe something landing over there.

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And then I sooner, I mean, no, a little while I just noticed these people kind of coming

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in and they kind of look, look like gypsies or Indians.

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I mean, they, they look like sort of nomadic people and they were of all ages.

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Yes.

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And, uh, and they just kind of, they didn't, didn't talk or anything.

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They just, um, I mean, they, they talked, but they, I didn't hear them.

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And then I just kind of sitting there observing them and they are seen to be making camp or

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something.

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They seem to be putting some vehicles in these, in these lot cabin places, in the lot places

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and, and they, they just seem to come in like they, like they've been there before.

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And, um, you know, it's just, they were just kind of, you know, kind of taking over.

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So I just kind of watched them.

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And then I, then I, uh, talked to them, tried to talk to them about some, about getting me

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out of here.

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And then one fellow showed me, uh, he seemed to show me, uh, some kind of a vehicle or

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some, some strange thing that, you know, look like, I don't know whether it would get me

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out of there or not, but I didn't know what to do.

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So I, I just went back to where I was standing and then, um, and then there seemed to be

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two helicopters looking, looking for me, I thought that night.

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They seemed to be going side by side and, um, looking for me.

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And so I kind of stood, I had this flashlight and I stood out and kind of the open, this

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is a little plateau here since there are trees, but there was some plateau and, and they

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seemed to be looking for me and looking for me.

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And, um, and, uh, these people are, they kind of drifted out to be around me.

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There seemed to be of all ages and one of them was sleep mom and they just seemed to

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be, you know, some of them were sleeping around me or something.

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I mean, it just kind of followed me out there and then I, um, uh, but then, uh, you know,

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just as those helicopters were about to get to me, I thought and see me, uh, the full

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moon had gone down and so they just kind of discontinued their search there because the

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full moon had gone down.

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And so, so then I was pretty discouraged and I just went and, uh, I went over by the stream

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and, uh, uh, this, they kind of came with me and are kind of, and this older lady, she

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said I should sleep in these pine boughs.

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I just went and slept on these, well, somewhat there are boughs and boughs or whatever and

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then I went to sleep and then I woke up and there was nobody there.

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But I saw some horses, some horses and they went away.

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I mean, they got out the way and then I, I went in and that campsite and there was just

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nobody there at all.

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And, uh, and, uh, I just didn't check for prints or anything.

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Uh, and I heard some dog barking and, uh, but I just, you know, went left there and went,

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uh, went up the mountain and hoped I'd be seen that day.

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Those vehicles that were, they put into these log sections, what did they look like?

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Oh, I'm not sure.

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I didn't really get a good, good look at them.

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They seem to be, well, they seem to be kind of like, um, they seem to be rectangular in

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shape.

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Um, seem like they could push them in kind of a, a log structure.

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Um, maybe they're, and I mean, they look kind of like, and they seem to be like, I mean,

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they weren't canoes, but they could, but they, uh, I mean, kind of seem to be pushing them

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in these log structures kind of like they would canoes or something like that.

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And, uh, and they also seem to have some other, seem to have some possible other vehicles around,

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but I, uh, I just couldn't tell.

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I mean, it was, it was kind of hazy, um, at night, uh, but, uh, these people, they just

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seemed to look different.

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And, you know, they just, um, I mean, they, they seemed to, I mean, they, they, they,

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they just, I mean, they just looked like a kind of a tribe of, of people.

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And, um, and, uh, I, I was just, uh, I wasn't terrified of them because I, they looked like

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people to me.

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And, uh, so, I mean, I, I don't really know what to think about it.

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I don't know whether it was something of an elucination or whether it was actually true

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or not.

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But, uh, you know, I, while I was experiencing it, I, I thought that, uh, what I was seeing

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was, uh, true.

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You know, what, what was really there.

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Right.

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What did those vehicles appear to be, uh, metallic?

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Um, I think so.

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You know, I would say, you know, if I had to guess, I would say they were.

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Okay.

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Now that light that you saw that came down out of this guy and landed, what did that

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look like?

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Well, I didn't really, oh, I mean, it was kind of a, a penetrate.

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I mean, it was, uh, kind of a light.

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I mean, it was, um, I just don't remember that much about the light itself.

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Uh, it, it, it, you know, it looked like a fairly strong light.

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Uh, it was a white light.

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And, uh, um, I just, uh, I just didn't notice it coming down that much until it seemed to

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be kind of down.

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And, uh, I just wasn't looking that direction.

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Did, uh, no, uh, verbal contact or communication?

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Well, I, I, I was talking, but they, uh, and they seemed to understand what I was saying,

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or I thought they did, but they didn't, they seemed to talk to each other, but they didn't

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seem to, I didn't hear them, you know, I didn't, uh, hear any sounds from them.

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I was just kind of moving around very silently.

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Okay.

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Now when they were moving about the area, could you hear, actually feel, or hear them walking

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on the ground, snapping twigs and so forth?

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Oh, not particularly now.

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It didn't have a feeling of it.

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Okay.

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Have you had any, uh, anything strange to happen since that experience?

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Uh, no, no, I just, uh, that was just the second night that I was lost.

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And then, I believe that was Wednesday night.

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And then, uh, Thursday, Friday and Saturday, I was also out, wasn't out that particular

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location, but I was out there and I didn't, uh, I hadn't experienced anything like that

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then.

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And, uh, you know, since then I haven't, I haven't dreamed or dreamt or anything about

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it.

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So, uh, nothing, nothing, uh, like that has happened since then.

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I noticed, uh, by the story here that the, uh, you did report it to the sheriff.

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Did you give him a complete rundown on that?

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Oh, I thought, I thought I did.

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Yeah.

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But, um, you know, I don't know how, you know, you know, what the sheriff thought about, I

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suppose he was a bit skeptical.

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Oh, sure.

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I was just wondering if you thought to ask him if they'd had any, uh, UFO reports in

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the area at that time?

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No, I didn't think to ask him.

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Um, I also, um, you know, it'd be interesting to know whether, whether there were actually

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two, two helicopters looking for me at that time.

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Yes.

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Uh, Wednesday night, you know, they were, uh, that by the full moon light, whether they

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were going side by side and, you know, uh, so at least, you know, that, I mean, so,

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uh, I, I mean, uh, you know, it'd be interesting to know that.

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Um, I think that's, uh, I think that's, uh, I think that's, uh, I think that's, uh,

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I think that's, uh, I think that's, uh, I think that's, uh, I think that's, uh,

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I think that's, uh, I think that's, uh, I think that's, uh, I think that's, uh,

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I think that's, uh, I think that's, uh, I think that's, uh, I think that's, uh,